A New Zealand news site, like many others around the world, have been exploring whether or not trans women should be considered “real” women.

“Feminism's gone through many phases: the first wave got us the vote, the second got us birth control and the third fought racism and classism as well as misogyny,” said authors Sophie Batemen and Ben O’Conner. “We're now in the midst of what could reasonably be called fourth wave feminism, which has presented activists with a question more nebulous and divisive than any other before: do women who were assigned male at birth belong in the movement?”

While the article really only presents the case for including trans women as real women they do acknowledge “some feminists are still opposed to accepting them into the women's movement. There's been pushback from second-wave feminists like Germaine Greer, who has repeatedly said she doesn't believe trans women can ever be "real" women.”

Binary spokeswoman, Kirralie Smith, is adamant that trans women – biological males who have transitioned to females – are not to be regarded as real women. “Science dictates that the DNA of a person is male or female. It cannot be changed with medication, surgery, clothing or make-up. A biological male is born a male and will die a male. Any adult can identify however they like but it doesn’t change scientific facts.”